And then my third recommendation is going to be Shy um which is the uh musical composer Mary Rogers's memoir publishedly with uh Jesse Green who is the theater critic here at the times. And uh people who know me well know that I'm a big theater nerd. And I loved this book. It's like very dishy.
Answering The Ezra Klein Show's closing question, three books to recommend, in “Trump’s Big Budget Bomb” (https://nytimes.com/2025/05/22/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-catherine-rampell.html). Quoted from the episode's YouTube auto-captions.
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