I think the frackers is really interesting for understanding our energy dominance uh you know evolution and revolution. Um, I think the the watching us go from a scarcity mindset in the 2000s when I started my career to being the Saudi Arabia of natural gas. It's not something that the elite saw coming. It's not something that really smart people saw coming. It's not what we indexed our our policy and our politics too.
Answering The Ezra Klein Show's closing question, three books to recommend, in “Does Trump Want to Lose the Midterms?” (https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/29/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-liam-donovan.html). Quoted from the episode's YouTube auto-captions.
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